[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

Re: A newbie's first question



PureBytes Links

Trading Reference Links


Put all the stocks you own into a separate folder, then 
you can follow them easily.
Lionel Issen<A 
href="mailto:lissen@xxxxxxxxx";>lissen@xxxxxxxxx
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr 
style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: 
  Bill Irwin 
  
  To: <A title=MetaStock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="mailto:MetaStock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>Mail List - MetaStock Submit 
  (E-mail) 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 11:48 
  PM
  Subject: A newbie's first question
  
  Hello list members:
   
  I'm a brand spanking new MS owner (7.03 
  EOD) and I've just spent the last three days going over the Getting Started, 
  DownLoader and User Manual.  I have to say that, aside from some keyboard 
  weakness in the Browse dialogue boxes, I'm impressed with the software's 
  number crunching ability and, what appears to be (at this early stage), it's 
  configurability for tuning.  I'm far from being a technical expert (which 
  will soon become glaringly apparent to you) so I'm feeling more than a bit 
  overwhelmed at this point.
   
  After scanning the entire contents of 
  these three manuals, and reading a good deal of them, I haven't seen any 
  mention of where you tell MS that you've taken a position, so that it would 
  know to alert you to exit.  The only thing I can think off (at this early 
  stage) is to attach an exit alert to a stock when you take a position and to 
  remove the alert after you exit so that you aren't alerted when you're 
  out.
   
  What I'm hoping to be able to do is to 
  update prices daily, then run an Exploration across all the stocks that will 
  alert for buy/short on stocks I'm out of and alert for exits on stocks I have 
  positions in.  Then review the alerts, make my trading decisions and book 
  my trades for the next day.  I know this must sound very naive to those 
  of you who know MS but we all had to start somewhere, right?
   
  Perhaps some of you could give me an 
  overview of your normal daily activities, aside from the arduous task of 
  testing new systems and tweaking the indicators in search for the optimal 
  system.  I know I have a lot of work ahead of me just to get a basic 
  understanding of the indicators, so for now, I'm just working with the canned 
  ones.  Getting a feel for how some seasoned users use the software each 
  day would go a long way towards helping me know where I should be focusing my 
  time at this point.
   
  I never expected MS to be a portfolio 
  manager but I thought it should at least know which stocks I have a position 
  in so it knows what and when to alert me.
   
  Thanks for any advise and suggestions you 
  may be willing to share with me.
   
  New List Member Bio:  I've 
  been interested in technical analysis ever since I bought my Commodore PET 
  2001 (circa 1978) and became fascinated that this 40 column screen, 8 Kb RAM, 
  cassette tape I/O device could be programmed to follow my instructions.  
  I typed in a program (Commodore BASIC) I found in a magazine that monitored 
  stocks and enhanced it to (among other thins) be able to scale the chart so 
  that the 18, or so, horizontal lines I had available would be fully utilized 
  regardless of the unit value.  It taught me how to be very frugal with my 
  coding as every module had to fit within the approx. 6 Kb of code space I had 
  available after the data arrays were loaded.
   
  The program used a 5, 15 & 40 week 
  simple moving average and buy alerts were triggered when the 15 was below 
  the 40 and the 5 crossed above the 15, indicating the bottom may have been 
  reached.  The buy alert operated the other way.  There were no 
  online data feeds in those days (at least not ones that the average mortal 
  could afford) so I weekly keyed in the closing prices for the 50 - 60 stocks I 
  followed from the Saturday paper.  The only criteria I used in picking 
  which stocks to follow were: I had to be able to pronounce it; the annual 
  high/low spread was around 100%, so I had stocks that cycled ... 
  somewhat.
   
  Using this primitive system, and 
  accounting for trade commissions, I was able to generate (on paper) an annual 
  return of 30% - 35% over a 3 year period.  This experience convinced me 
  that even a simple mechanical system could, if emotions were eliminated, 
  generate superior returns.  I have no idea what the TSE market was 
  returning in those days (1982 - 1985), but I doubt it was 30%.  The 
  problem back then was that what few programs existed were way too expensive 
  for my budget (What budget?  In those days it all went on beer!).  
  This was way before Windows.
   
  I recently became a victim of corporate 
  downsizing (anyone been following GAC.TO for the last 2 years?) and lost my 
  job after 15 years of continuous employment - exactly 1 1/2 years after my 
  previous employer was acquired by Geac.  The reasonable severance I was 
  able to negotiate has given me both the time and the funds to finally see if I 
  can really do anything meaningful with technical trading.  After browsing 
  all the indicators described in the MS manual I feel inclined to build my old 
  5, 15 & 40 MA system and see if it can still generate 30%, and forget 
  about the steep learning curve I know awaits me!
   
  Actually, I'm hoping that over the next 
  few months I can build a reasonable understanding of some of the indicators 
  and develop proficiency in MS so that I can paper trade to a point where I 
  have some degree of confidence in whatever "system" I come up with.  An 
  unrealistically optimistic scenario would be me, in 6 months, responding 
  to my wife's questions about when am I ever going to get another job, by 
  stating that I'm making more money trading than I was in my old day job.  
  I know.  I hear you all muttering, "What a dreamer this guy 
  is!"  I would like to get there some day and I know it won't happen 
  in 6 months.
   
  Anyway, I plan to be a regular reader of 
  this list, in addition to some technical trading newsgroups, and would welcome 
  any suggestions you might be willing to toss my way - especially those things 
  you've learned that made you say, "Now, if I'd only learned this when I 
  first got into TA trading..."
   
  Profitable trades,
  Bill
  <A 
  href="mailto:Bill-Irwin@xxxxxxxx";>Bill-Irwin@xxxxxxxx