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Hello,
You need to understand that each file and each directory in Windows
Vista / 7 has
"Security" settings connected with it. When you copy/overwrite files
their properties are copied too.
If you run setup and the setup creates AMiBroker directory you can write
files *INSIDE* this directory, without problem. You should *not* however
delete or replace AmiBroker directory itself. You may only copy files
and subdirectories *INSIDE* AmiBroker directory, but do not touch the
AmiBroker directory itself.
Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
On 2010-03-04 12:09, bingk66 wrote:
> Hi Tomasz,
>
>
> Thank you for your detailed response.
>
> I did run the full setup of Amibroker V5.20. The result of this full setup was that the Amibroker directory was created under C:\Program Files (x86). Seeing how the install program already created the Amibroker directory, I had assumed that it was safe, perhaps naively, that it was possible to substitute the contents of one Amibroker directory with another. I seem to recall support mentioning that it was OK to copy the entire AMibroker directory across if you wanted to keep all your data, formulas, layouts chart setup etc etc identical to what you had in the original computer. Perhaps that advice from support was not applicable to Vista or 7, only to XP.
>
> In view of what you have just said, is there a simple and safe way to copy across all the data, formulas, layouts chart setup etc etc from the old computer without copying the entire Amibroker directory ?
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Tomasz Janeczko<groups@xxx> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Quote from the user:
>> "I copied the entire Amibroker directory from my old computer onto the
>> C:\Program files
>>
>> (x86) directory in the new computer and started up Amibroker."
>>
>>
>> Wrong!
>>
>> All your problems come from the fact that you have copied files manually,
>> instead of running full setup from
>> http://www.amibroker.com/bin/AmiBroker520.exe
>> to install AmiBroker into FINAL directory.
>>
>> You can not just copy files in Windows 7 inside "Program Files" or
>> "Program Files (x86)"
>> because these directories are PROTECTED (even under admin account) and
>> Windows
>> will redirect all write to virtual folders.
>>
>> Running FULL SETUP is absolutely necessary on Windows VISTA and Windows 7.
>>
>> Without running FULL SETUP Windows Vista and Windows 7 will use its
>> folder virtualization.
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927387
>>
>>
>> Running setup is a MUST because only setup programs are allowed in
>> Windows Vista / 7 to
>> write to Program Files and allow programs to actually have write access
>> subdirectory.
>> The setup program will enable write rights to AmiBroker directory and
>> only then you
>> will be able to actually create files inside without being redirected by
>> Windows Folder Virtualization.
>>
>> So once again:
>> 1. DELETE everything by hand.
>> 2. RUN FULL SETUP http://www.amibroker.com/bin/AmiBroker520.exe
>> and select proper FINAL directory.
>> DO NOT COPY anything by hand.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Tomasz Janeczko
>> amibroker.com
>>
>> On 2010-03-04 10:25, bingk66 wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> Using the Dir command from good old DOS has shed some light on my problem. Everytime I update a formula from within Amibroker, a new file is created inside the C:\Users\Bing\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files (x86)\Amibroker\Formulas\Custom folder. From what I can tell, this is the directory that Amibroker (or Windows 7) will look into first to find whatever files it need. If it finds it there, it will use that version.
>>>
>>> If it does not find the file that it requires, it will then go to
>>>
>>> C:\Users\Bing\Program Files (x86)\Amibroker\Formulas\Custom
>>>
>>> The problem that I have is that everytime I update a formula within Amibroker, a new version of the file is created in C:\Users\Bing\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files (x86)\Amibroker\Formulas\Custom. This results in 2 different versions kept of each updated file which is a pain to say the least. Also I cannot use Windows Explorer to zoom down to this directory because it does not recognise the AppData directory
>>>
>>> Would you have any idea why this is happening ??
>>>
>>> Bing
>>>
>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Mike"<sfclimbers@> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> That being the case, all I can suggest is double and triple check the complete path of the file that you are drilling down to via Explorer vs. the path that shows up in the Save As dialog. It sounds like you're looking at two different copies of the file.
>>>>
>>>> If you're not used to Windows 7, but can still access a command prompt, just use good ol' DOS to find all copies of the file:
>>>>
>>>> To get to the root drive you can do:
>>>>
>>>> cd \
>>>>
>>>> From root drive do this:
>>>>
>>>> dir /s myfile.afl
>>>>
>>>> Do not type in any directory paths, just type the name of your file ignoring all directories, the /s flag will cause a deep search of all subdirectories (i.e. the entire drive since you are starting from root).
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "bingk66"<bing.kwok@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>>
>>>>> It means that I shutdown Amibroker, then using windows explorer go into the C:\program files (x86)\Amibroker directory, dive down all the way to the folder that contain the afl file that I had just modified within AB. I then open that AFL file using a simple text editor like notepad and have a look.
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Mike"<sfclimbers@> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bing,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What *exactly* are you doing when you say "when I have a look at the file outside of AB"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "bingk66"<bing.kwok@> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Mike and Keith,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for your prompt responses.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tried using the save as option within the File save option and it tells me that the directory it was trying to save the file into is indeed C:\Program Files (x86)\Amibroker .... etc. So I actually went ahead and did the save and it all appears to work within AB. However, when I have a look at the file outside of AB, once again it does not reflect the changes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It looks like I will have to follow Keith's suggestion of uninstalling AB from c:\program files (x86) and then reinstalling it back into C:\program files. However, before doing that, my problem now is that I like to backup the work done in Windows 7, but I cannot do it because I don't know where the actual files are kept. To physically go through and identify all the changes within Windows 7 would be a very time consuming and error prone exercise which I am hoping to avoid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AB must be storing these formulas outside of C:\Program Files (x86) because when I am working with the formulas within AB, it displays the absolute latest versions of the code, right down to the indentings, comments, tabs etc etc and those details must surely be stored somewhere.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Keith McCombs<kmccombs@> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bingk --
>>>>>>>> This would be a great opportunity to rant against the idiots at M$ for
>>>>>>>> making such un-user-friendly software. They could have kept \Program
>>>>>>>> Files\ for 32bit programs. And made a new folder called \Program Files
>>>>>>>> 64\ for 64bit programs. But that would be too easy for us users. And
>>>>>>>> M$ will probably sell more 'upgraded' software this way. End of rant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are probably many ways to solve your problem. This is the way I
>>>>>>>> did. When installing AB (32bit version) do not install in the default
>>>>>>>> folder, \Program Files (x86)\. Instead install it in \Program Files\.
>>>>>>>> Continue until you are asked for your working folder. Then set that to
>>>>>>>> \Program Files\ also. Now copy the entire Amibroker directory from your
>>>>>>>> old computer onto the C:\Program files\. That's it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well not all of it. BEFORE you do the above, the safest thing is to
>>>>>>>> save any Win7 AB work, .afl files, that you want to some folder outside
>>>>>>>> of \Amibroker\. Then uninstall AB from \Program Files (x86)\. Then go
>>>>>>>> to the paragraph above.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BTW, Amibroker is available as a 64bit program also. But DON'T try to
>>>>>>>> use it yet. Get the 32bit version working to your satisfaction first.
>>>>>>>> Then if you feel you want to try the 64bit, after there is at least a
>>>>>>>> 5.30 version, it is simple to install, and still have the 32bit to fall
>>>>>>>> back on. Just ask again for how to do it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>>>>>> -- Keith
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3/2/2010 22:55, bingk66 wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have just bought a new computer that runs Windows 7 Home Premium. I
>>>>>>>>> subsequently installed Amibroker V5.2 Full version. Unlike previous
>>>>>>>>> versions of Amibroker in my previous computer whereby the Amibroker
>>>>>>>>> directory was found in C:\Program Files\, this particular installation
>>>>>>>>> on my new computer has the Amibroker directory located in the
>>>>>>>>> C:\Program Files (x86)\ instead, which I thought was a little strange
>>>>>>>>> but OK, as Amibroker seems to be working well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now as part of my migration into the new computer, I copied the entire
>>>>>>>>> Amibroker directory from my old computer onto the C:\Program files
>>>>>>>>> (x86) directory in the new computer and started up Amibroker. Once
>>>>>>>>> again, all my formulas and charts seem to work OK, Amibroker appears
>>>>>>>>> to be refering to the correct directory, so no problems.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After making some changes to some formulas within Amibroker, I saved
>>>>>>>>> my work and exited Amibroker. I then went into the C:\ Program files
>>>>>>>>> (x86)\Amibroker to check that the changes that I had made within
>>>>>>>>> Amibroker was corrected reflected inside C:\ Program files
>>>>>>>>> (x86)\Amibroker. To my surprise, the work that I had saved within
>>>>>>>>> Amibroker was not updated within the C:\ Program files (x86)\Amibroker
>>>>>>>>> directory. I tried to make some more changes within Amibroker and once
>>>>>>>>> again these changes were not reflected in the Program files
>>>>>>>>> (x86)\Amibroker directory.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just to test things out a little further, I created a new test
>>>>>>>>> directory within the C:\ Program files (x86)\Amibroker\Formulas folder
>>>>>>>>> just to see whether Amibroker would recognize it and pick it up when
>>>>>>>>> it loaded up next. Sure enough, Amibroker picked it up the new
>>>>>>>>> directory, but not only that, it also retained all the changes that I
>>>>>>>>> had made to the various formulas. So from Amibroker's point of view,
>>>>>>>>> everything is working OK. My question then is where is Amibroker
>>>>>>>>> storing all of its formulas ??, if its not inside C:\ Program files
>>>>>>>>> (x86)\Amibroker\Formulas
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is a problem for me as my backup routines look inside the C:\
>>>>>>>>> Program files (x86)\Amibroker\Formulas directory to backup my formulas
>>>>>>>>> and at the moment, its backing up code that does not incorporate the
>>>>>>>>> changes that I made within AMibroker.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Would appreciate any feedback
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
>
>
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