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> But what do I know.

Quite a bit judging ny your posts ;-)



--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ohneclue <ohneclue@xxx> wrote:
>
> Stochastics is basically a mathematical differential equation used 
in all kinds of industries to do all kinds of things.  It is not 
unique to the TA in the stock market analysis. 
> 
> If Lane bought him out, that was the ethical thing to do. But I 
always see everyone saying George C Lane is the originator of the 
stochastsics used for TA of stocks rather than he worked for someone 
and bought him out.  That could be true, I just don't see any 
reference to that when I Google him.
> 
> But what do I know.
> 
> Judith
> 
> ________________________________
> From: MAVIRK <mvirk67@xxx>
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 12:13:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: COPYRIGHT
> 
> 
> And the problem keeps on getting compounded .
> 
> 
> From: LB 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:17 AM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxx ps.com 
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: COPYRIGHT
> 
>  
>  And of course Lane didn't come up with Stochastics.  It was the 
man Lane was working for and Lane later bought him out.
> Lane I believe though was the one who smoothed the stochastics.
>  
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: MAVIRK 
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxx ps.com 
> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 11:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: COPYRIGHT
> 
> Can one use Stoch's with Mr. Lanes' Sefault Setting?
> 
> 
> From: Barry Scarborough 
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 6:48 AM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxx ps.com 
> Subject: [amibroker] Re: COPYRIGHT
> 
> No, that is not correct. If someone publishes a formula and you 
> optimize it and come up with different periods or apply it in a 
> different way that is your work. 
> 
> Let me use an example to show the subtlety of this. Every car has 
an 
> engine and transmission. Every different variation has a different 
> patent. There may be only a small variation but you would not have 
to 
> pry royalties on the new variation. You can do two things, publish 
it 
> or patent it. Once you do either then the work you did is in the 
> public domain and no one else can patent your work. 
> 
> Barry
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxx ps.com, Michel Guibert <michelg14@ ..> 
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > If I follow all the copyright , I can't do anything , everybody 
has 
> done everything before me.
> > Many formulas were published in many books or review and you 
think 
> there is copyright on them ???
> > Personnaly when they are published in a review I consider them in 
> the public domain.
> > 
> > MG
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > To: amibroker@ .: ohneclue@ : Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:05:28 -
> 0800Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: COPYRIGHT
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Whenever you write something, you own the copyright to it such -- 
> even these posts are the IP of the individual poster and they own 
the 
> copyright to the contents. Yahoo does not own it, the group owner 
> does not own it and in the Yahoo TOS, this is so stated.
> > 
> > In another group that suffers from overt estrogen overloaded, 1 
> person wrote a guide, lifted whole posts of other members and put 
> them in her guide (without credit or permission) that she sold and 
> was called on it. The person who was charging for the information 
> had to refund money and revise her guide to be strictly and 
> exclusively her own words. That is an example of copyright 
violation.
> > 
> > I use and quote George C Lane and his application of the 
stochastic 
> formula all the time and it is NOT a violation of copyright because 
> the settings are mine that I have played around with, I give credit 
> where I have learned something from someone else such as David 
> Elliott about stochastics settings, etc., and don't lift entire 
> paragraphs or words in the same series as their works. These are 
not 
> copyright violations. These come under the fair and free use 
concept.
> > 
> > If I am discussing something from a trading book or manual that 
is 
> copyrighted and put it into my own words even though it is not my 
> original idea, that is not a violation of copyright. 
> > 
> > If I write a book or prepare a PP presentation and pass the work 
> off as my own when it is based on someone else's work and the 
charts 
> are THEIRS I lifted entirely, word for word or exactly the same 
> indicator settings, other than my own stochastic settings I've 
> developed, and sell it, that is a violation of copyright. 
> > 
> > The two elements are: passing stuff off as your own when you 
> copied it from someone else and selling it as your own idea.
> > 
> > Judith
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: Barry Scarborough <razzbarry@ ..>To: amibroker@ .: Friday, 
> December 19, 2008 10:32:28 PMSubject: [amibroker] Re: COPYRIGHT
> > 
> > No. It appears there is a lot of confusion on copyright laws. A 
> good discussion is at http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Copyrights. OF 
> course this isn't official but it is an easier read than the law 
> books. People like Wilder published his works so others could 
benefit 
> from his discoveries. What the copyright laws do is prevent someone 
> from copying his work and selling it. But the intellectual property 
> he disclosed is for our use. Why else would he publish it?Barry--- 
In 
> amibroker@xxxxxxxxx ps.com, "binjobingo" <binjobingo@ ...> wrote:>> 
> Does referring to Wilder's Relative strength Indicator,or Lane's> 
> Stochastics, or Chande's Vidya & so on lead to copyright violation?
> 
> > Say one reads An Author's book & am not able to write AFL for 
the> 
> Indicators & so ask the forum members to write it for me Is it> 
> copyright violation?> > If one give a link to the Website say some 
> other website which> explains the parameters & use of the 
> said "indicator" but the website> may not be owned by the Author 
> himself does it lead to copyright> violation ?> > If it is so I 
think 
> all the forums would close down & nobody would> discuss their 
trading 
> strategy since trading strategies use some> Indicator by some 
author.>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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