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> Yes, I think I will make use of the watchlists to cover the third
> level that AB does not support; however I think I will use the
> watchlists to hold only the nine symbols representing each of the
>nine
> sectors defined by Hemscott. This way there is less to manage in the
> watchlists.
If you are going to go that way you could also put the 9 H sectors in
the Index folder .... it might depend on how you want to use them in
AFL ... for short lists it is easy enough to manually flag them as
indexes from the information window so you could experiment witht
that one without too much trouble.
> I will map the Hemscott Industries to Sectors in AB and the Hemscott
> Groups to Industries in AB. This will take some work to set up but I
> think it will work.
Yes, it will work.... use broker.industries and broker.sectors to map
the categories to what you want.
Thereafter you will need to keep maintaining your symbol assignment
to your Industries/Groups categorization..... I think it would be
worth your while to make a suggestion to AB to provide the option to
select either sector/industry OR industry/group as the retrievable
structure (that shouldn't have a lot of techinical difficulties).
I think you will also need to turn off QP Configuration >> Select
Categories to retrieve in the AB database setup or else the plugin
will keep over-riding your new categorisation.
brian_z
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "trb0428" <tombrowne34@xxx> wrote:
>
> Yes, I think I will make use of the watchlists to cover the third
> level that AB does not support; however I think I will use the
> watchlists to hold only the nine symbols representing each of the
nine
> sectors defined by Hemscott. This way there is less to manage in the
> watchlists.
>
> Hemscott has Sector --> Industry --> Group
> AmiBroker only supports Sector --> Industry
>
> I will map the Hemscott Industries to Sectors in AB and the Hemscott
> Groups to Industries in AB. This will take some work to set up but I
> think it will work. For, the Hemscott sectors, I will hold these
nine
> symbols in Watchlists.
>
> I have included links to three screenshots that correspond to the
> Basic Materials sector. As you can see, all three levels provide
> volume data. For me, this alone is worth going to the trouble of
> restructuring my AB database. I can take care of associating the
> Sector symbol that is in my Watchlist with the correct
Industry/Group
> in my AFL formulas.
>
> http://www.webcando.com/demos/!HM1_Basic_Materials_Sector.jpg
> http://www.webcando.com/demos/!HM11_Chemicals_Industry.jpg
> http://www.webcando.com/demos/!HM111_Synthetics_Group.jpg
>
> Thanks for your feedback.
>
> Best regards,
> Tom
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian_z111" <brian_z111@> wrote:
> >
> > > Pity I can't see what you are getting from QP.
> > > Are you getting all layers ?
> >
> > As I understand it you can see Sector --> Industry --> Sub-
Industry,
> > + vols for each, at QP but AB leaves the SubIndustry
classification
> > behind.
> >
> > IMO export to MS is not so nice ... very distracting to trading
to be
> > manually moving stuff around on a daily basis..... also QP do
some
> > work to delete old symbols,or whatever, so best to leave it to
them.
> >
> > I would use QP plugin and just manually enter WL's to AB for the
sub-
> > Industry groupings ... you would then only need to maintain your
WL's
> > yourself.
> >
> > Thanks for letting me know that H has volumes for all levels ...
a
> > handy piece of info that I didn't have.
> >
> > brian_z
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian_z111" <brian_z111@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am looking to use the Hemscott structure because it provides
> > > > volume for each of the sector and industry index symbols as
well
> > as
> > > > the sub-industry index symbols. Volume is critical to my
analysis
> > > >in AB.
> > >
> > > Pity I can't see what you are getting from QP.
> > >
> > > Are you getting all layers ?
> > >
> > > > I can export the structure from the QuotesPlus charting
> > programming
> > > > and save it in Metastock format. I think I can then import the
> > > > Metastock format into AB.
> > >
> > > AFAIK you can read the Metastock format seamlessly, using the
MS
> > > plugin, but it doesn't recognise the structure ... you can only
> > > structure AB via the methods discussed in the help manual/UKB
i.e.
> > > manually setting categories etc.
> > >
> > > > A significant difference is the Hemscott structure is three
layers
> > > > deep Sector --> Industry --> Sub-Industry --> stock
> > > > AB databse does not support three levels of definition.
> > > > I will have to think of a way around this, but I'm sure I can
> > come
> > > >up
> > > > with something that will work for me.
> > >
> > >
> > > There is no nice way, that I know of, to manage mutiple sector
> > > industry layers in AB.
> > > Some of us are scratching our heads about that one.
> > >
> > > All of the classification systems use multi-layers ... S&P have
had
> > > them since 1999.
> > >
> > > The only way I can think of is to use the categories that are
there
> > > in a non-traditional way .... categorise the third level (sub-
> > > industry) of the structure by using Watchlists..... at least
there
> > > are plenty of WL's available .... the newer WL structure does
allow
> > > for a significant break at WL > no 64 .... if I went down that
path
> > I
> > > would think about putting them there and keeping the first 64
WL/s
> > > for other uses.
> > >
> > > The ODBC plugin is another round about possibility ... perhaps
AB
> > > support can advice if it is capable of tagging a stock with 3
or
> > more
> > > category identifiers (database fields) that you could then
> > > reference ... it might slow you down on large stock lists
though.
> > >
> > > brian_z
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "trb0428" <tombrowne34@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am looking to use the Hemscott structure because it provides
> > > > volume for each of the sector and industry index symbols as
well
> > as
> > > > the sub-industry index symbols. Volume is critical to my
analysis
> > > in AB.
> > > >
> > > > I can export the structure from the QuotesPlus charting
> > programming
> > > > and save it in Metastock format. I think I can then import the
> > > > Metastock format into AB.
> > > >
> > > > A significant difference is the Hemscott structure is three
layers
> > > > deep Sector --> Industry --> Sub-Industry --> stock
> > > > AB databse does not support three levels of definition.
> > > > I will have to think of a way around this, but I'm sure I can
> > come
> > > up
> > > > with something that will work for me.
> > > >
> > > > Your information in the KB is very useful. Thank you for
> > providing
> > > it.
> > > >
> > > > best regards,
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian_z111" <brian_z111@>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I know a little bit about Hemscotts strucure.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't use QP so I can't help you directly..... of you
want to
> > > copy
> > > > > the structure directly you need to know if it is saved
locally
> > > i.e.
> > > > > in AB Workspace etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > You then have a few choices:
> > > > >
> > > > > - save copy of database & delete what you don't want
> > > > > - copy/paste key files to duplicate database structure
without
> > > data
> > > > > - export symbol lists manually then reimport to a new
database
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > BUT!
> > > > >
> > > > > You can start from scratch and make your own H structure
> > database
> > > (it
> > > > > is incredible fun, trust me).
> > > > >
> > > > > It would help if you could be specific about what you want
to
> > do.
> > > > >
> > > > > To help you decide:
> > > > >
> > > > > - Hemscott is a UK company
> > > > > - it doesn't make a lot of sense to use H if you are not
going
> > to
> > > use
> > > > > QP
> > > > > - Hemscott have their own structure (similar to ICB)
> > > > > - it is more fine grained than S&P (most of the sector
trading
> > in
> > > the
> > > > > US goes on in the S&P ETF's)
> > > > > - H has gained some favour in the US (don't know why they
have
> > > > > forgiven the Pommies, for the Boston Tea Party stuff, so
> > easily).
> > > > > - H is used at YahooUSA
> > > > >
> > > > > http://biz.yahoo.com/ic/ind_index.html
> > > > >
> > > > > hunt around there and you can get 5day intraday charts for
> > > industries
> > > > > and component lists (html only).
> > > > >
> > > > > - AFAIK there is no way to trade a Hemscott sector/industry
> > > (actually
> > > > > there is very little difference in performance between an H
> > > sector
> > > > > and an ICB sector anyway ... same old companies).
> > > > >
> > > > > - you can get links to the H structure and H site from the
UKB
> > > > > (scroll down to DatabaseManagement>>Hemscott
> > > > >
> > > > > (I posted files at the UKB to help people use for set up
the
> > > > > Hstructure ... can't seem to download the XL file but ask
> > Tomasz
> > > > > about it if you want it).
> > > > >
> > > > > - You can subscribe to H site and get filtered lists for
the UK
> > > but
> > > > > not the US
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.hemscott.com/companies/company-search.do
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I prefer use Dow ICB classification (I follow international
> > > markets a
> > > > > little) because while it comes second in the USA it is a
more
> > > > > universally used classification:
> > > > >
> > > > > - It is very similar to Hemscott.
> > > > > - It is used mainly in Europe/UK.
> > > > > - The DownIdexes site recently improved features and you
can
> > get
> > > > > quite good file lists in CSV format from there.
> > > > > - You can trade ICB sectors via futures and ETF's.
> > > > > - Used by YahooUK.
> > > > > - Used by STOXX.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://uk.biz.yahoo.com/sectors/
> > > > >
> > > > > http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/m9.php
> > > > >
> > > > > http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/m7.php
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "trb0428" <tombrowne34@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > QuotesPlus has recently added Hemscott structured data to
> > their
> > > data
> > > > > > download.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Their industry monitor index structure is automatically
> > > imported and
> > > > > > setup
> > > > > > within the AB database providing sector/industry
groupings
> > > > > organized in
> > > > > > a folder
> > > > > > structure.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, with the Hemscott structure available from
QuotesPlus,
> > is
> > > > > their a
> > > > > > way
> > > > > > to set up the AB database to directly import this
Hemscott
> > > > > structure?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is anyone using this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here is the Hemscott structure:
> > > > > > http://www.webcando.com/demos/hemscott_structure.jpg
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Tom
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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