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Re: [amibroker] Re: RT chart not updating !!!



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You need to use "Wait for backfill" in AA (in Professional Edition).
This is equivalent of downloading histories via QCollector.

Without that AA will NOT wait for historical data to arrive.

Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John" <jar5499297@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 1:51 PM
Subject: [amibroker] Re: RT chart not updating !!!


> And all along I thought it was me! 
> 
> Each day I load maybe 50 symbols into a new watchlist. I would like 
> to use RT but now use 1 minute charts. One of my conditions I look 
> for is for volume > Daily ma(V,75) . I tried one minute database. I 
> tried force back fill, using mixed data base. In Explore I discovered 
> the daily ma volume was coming up empty. I wrote this up
> TimeFrameSet(inDaily);
> EMAV65 = EMA(V,65);
> EMAV45 = EMA(V,45);
> EMAV35 = EMA(V,35);
> TimeFrameRestore();
> DailyEMAV65 =  TimeFrameExpand(EMAV65,inDaily,expandFirst);
> DailyEMAV35 =  TimeFrameExpand(EMAV35,inDaily,expandFirst);
> DailyEMAV45 =  TimeFrameExpand(EMAV45,inDaily,expandFirst);
> Filter = 1;
> AddColumn(DailyEMAV65,"EMAV65");
> AddColumn(DailyEMAV45,"EMAV45");
> AddColumn(DailyEMAV35,"EMAV35");
> 
> Just to see what was going wrong. That was when I found the volume 
> problem. Years ago I used QCharts. That was when I first discovered 
> the problem. I contacted support and TJ couldn't replicate the 
> problem. To "fix" my problem I purchased QCollector. I now use IQ. 
> Had the same issue. Bought QCollector for IQ. Problem resolved again. 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John
> 
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "przemyslawuk" <przemyslawuk@xxx> 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I had a hard time with Amibroker and IQFeed support, both being 
>> useless. Although they both tryed their best. I think it is 
>> Amibroker to blaim otherwise IQFeed would have been out of business.
>> 
>> You are right that when I restart AB all thata gets filled 
> correctly,
>> but it is ONLY in that moment when it starts. From that moment on 
>> the chart is not updating unless I do "force backfill".
>> I have AB installed on my laptop and my desktop and I get exactly 
>> the same problems, with exactly THE SAME symbols.
>> My chart timings are less than 0.01sec so no problems here.
>> 
>> I also have some delay in the datafeed, it varies from symbol to 
>> symbol but it is in the order of a few seconds, usually no more 
> than 
>> 5sec. I think this could be because IQ servers are in US and I live 
>> in UK. I am not happy with that delay but at the moment I have 
>> bigger problems than that.
>> 
>> And most  symbols are updating correctly but to me it makes AB 
>> useless for day trading if I can't see the volume or the chart is 
>> completely frozen.
>> 
>> I get all sorts of other problems with AB detabase, like each 
> symbol 
>> backfills to a different historical date. For example BRCM has 
>> quotes going 31 days back while RIMM only 20. And that all is with 
> a 
>> database setting of 72 days.
>> 
>> I did try to delete the database, create a new one and backfill it 
>> with data but that doesn't help.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "monitorit" <monitorit@> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi przemyslawuk,
>> > Im also having RTdata update problems and have had the problem 
>> since 
>> > I started with RT data.  Im using ABpro 5.05 and DON'T use 
> IQfeed. 
>> > 
>> > Charts, RTQuote window and Time&Sales are all perfect with up to 
>> the 
>> > second quotes until they start slowly falling behind about 2pm 
>> > eastern time.  By 2:30 all these windows (for all stock symbols) 
>> are 
>> > about 120 seconds late... the quotes keep coming into AB but are 
>> > slowly being delayed somehow.  Over the next 15 minutes they 
> speed 
>> up 
>> > to become up to the second in all these windows.  BUT, the 
> problem 
>> > starts again about 3:30 so that by 3:40 the quotes are 60 seconds 
>> > late and over the next 20 minutes they gradually fall further 
>> behind 
>> > so that by 4pm the quotes are 360 seconds behind.  The 4pm 
>> (closing) 
>> > quotes finally came in at 4:09 today!!! 
>> > 
>> > I have a networked second computer running a program to my broker 
>> > that documents the time delay and excluding my internet 
> connection 
>> as 
>> > the problem.  Also, if I quit AB and restart it, the new quotes 
>> are 
>> > immediately on time.  [You might want to check this for your 
>> problem--
>> >  though I don't see it as any longterm solution.]  It almost 
> seems 
>> > like quotes are 'caught' in a queue at these times - when trading 
>> > volume is higher than most other times of day.
>> > 
>> > Very frustrating and no resolution from AB support or 
> quote/plugin 
>> > provider.  This computer has plenty of horsepower, runs vista32, 
>> > indexing off in AB folder, no other programs running.  Chart 
>> refresh 
>> > from 0 to 10 sec makes no difference.  My db is 1 minute bars 
>> (only 
>> > 100 symbols, only high volume stocks and only 7400 bars/symbol).  
>> Do 
>> > you know how to determine the best settings for the 
>> preferences>Data 
>> > tab cache size, megabytes, bars to load?
>> > 
>> > Dan
>> > 
>> > 
>> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "przemyslawuk" <przemyslawuk@> 
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > symbols are not set to local, continuous is true.
>> > > quote editor shows the same values as the chart-correct values 
>> > until 
>> > > 15.15 and then 0.
>> > > you can see the volume untill 15.15 only because at 15.15 I 
>> > > did "force backfill".
>> > > 
>> > > maybe a stupid question, but would the bad data filter have to 
>> do 
>> > > something with that?
>> > > 
>> > > Regards
>> > > 
>> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "murthysuresh" <money@> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > check the attached screenshot and make sure that your symbols 
>> are 
>> > > not 
>> > > > set to local and continous contracts =true
>> > > > http://screencast.com/t/4pCmTKzX
>> > > > 
>> > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "przemyslawuk" 
>> <przemyslawuk@> 
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I have the latest version of all plugins and clients.
>> > > > > I also tried with Amibroker 5.0 5.10 4.90.
>> > > > > tryied to downgrade the IQFeed client and lots of other 
>> things.
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > I get the same problem with the same symbols on both my 
>> > > computers,
>> > > > > which are different (desktop and laptop). To me they are 
> two 
>> > > > > completely different systems.
>> > > > > Erasing the hardrive and reinstalling the system and 
>> amibroker 
>> > > on 
>> > > > my 
>> > > > > desktop didn't fix the problem. And as I say the quotes are 
>> > > > > appearing correct in the realtime quote window, so the data 
>> is 
>> > > > > received correctly by the IQFeed client and Amibroker's 
>> IQFeed 
>> > > > > plugin. It is only the charts that behave strangly. I 
>> checked 
>> > > the 
>> > > > > chart refreshing and database settings and everything is 
>> like 
>> > > the 
>> > > > > tutorials and Amibroker website say.
>> > > > > I've run out of ideas what else to try.
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "sidhartha70" 
>> <sidhartha70@> 
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I've been using IQ Feed for months and I have to say I've 
>> had
>> > > > > > virtually zero problems with the feed or with AmiBroker 
>> > > handling 
>> > > > > the feed.
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > Sounds to me like there is something else at play here in 
>> your
>> > > > > > situation. It should be simple... it is simple for other 
>> > > people, 
>> > > > > but
>> > > > > > not you. Why? Well, very difficult to say without having 
>> your 
>> > > > > system
>> > > > > > in front of me... 3rd party sofware, virus software 
>> > > etc..etc...?
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > Maybe Tomasz has some ideas. Make sure you are on the 
>> latest 
>> > > > > versions
>> > > > > > of IQ data feed manager and AmiBroker.
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "przemyslawuk" 
>> > > <przemyslawuk@> 
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > IQFeed
>> > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > but I saw posts on this forum from people who use 
>> eSignal 
>> > > and 
>> > > > > have 
>> > > > > > > the same problem.
>> > > > > > > I was hassling IQFeed people about it, but they 
> replayed 
>> > > with 
>> > > > > > > screen shots of Amibroker which show that their charts 
>> are 
>> > > > > updating 
>> > > > > > > correctly.
>> > > > > > > The problem affects only some symbols, I think they are 
>> > > always 
>> > > > > the 
>> > > > > > > same symbols.
>> > > > > > > Yesterday I had a problem with YHOO. It didn't update 
> at 
>> > > all, 
>> > > > > then 
>> > > > > > > after n-th time of right click on IQFeed plugin 
>> > > and "reconnect" 
>> > > > > it 
>> > > > > > > started updating, I switched to another chart and when 
> I 
>> > > > > switched 
>> > > > > > > back to YHOO it wasn't updating again.
>> > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > Regards
>> > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "sidhartha70" 
>> > > <sidhartha70@> 
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > What datafeed are you using...?
>> > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "przemyslawuk" 
>> > > > > <przemyslawuk@> 
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > I've been upgrading every version hoping for a 
>> change, 
>> > > gave 
>> > > > > up 
>> > > > > > > > > already.
>> > > > > > > > > Upgraded to 5.09 and then to 5.10
>> > > > > > > > > INDU.X stil not updating the volume.
>> > > > > > > > > ADBE the price and volume stay frozen.
>> > > > > > > > > completey no change.
>> > > > > > > > > this happens now on both my computers.
>> > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > I remember it working about a year ago with ver4.90,
>> > > > > > > > > I just don't know what has changed. I even tryied 
> to 
>> > > > > > > > > downgrade to 4.90 but still get the problem.
>> > > > > > > > > and the support still repeats that if the quote is 
>> > > updating 
>> > > > > in 
>> > > > > > > > > the ral time quote window, the chart should be 
>> updating 
>> > > too.
>> > > > > > > > > But it is not the case.
>> > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > I was wonder, maybe  someon on tthis forum knows 
>> what 
>> > to 
>> > > do
>> > > > > > > > > to get the RT chart updating in RT?
>> > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > regards
>> > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ironsh3ik@ wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Yes
>> > > > > > > > > > Rgds
>> > > > > > > > > > Chris
>> > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > Sent via my BlackBerry
>> > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > > > > > From: "lagramada7" <lagramada7@>
>> > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 08:00:39 
>> > > > > > > > > > To:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [amibroker] Re: RT chart not updating !!!
>> > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:amibroker%
>> > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com> 
>> > > > > > > > > ps.com, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@> 
>> > > > > > > > > >  wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > >  >
>> > > > > > > > > >  > Tools->Preferences, Misc: "Display chart 
> timing"
>> > > > > > > > > >  > 
>> > > > > > > > > >  > Best regards,
>> > > > > > > > > >  > Tomasz Janeczko
>> > > > > > > > > >  > amibroker.com
>> > > > > > > > > >  > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > > > > > > > > >  > From: "lagramada7" <lagramada7@>
>> > > > > > > > > >  > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:amibroker%
>> > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com> 
>> > > > > > > > > ps.com>
>> > > > > > > > > >  > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 9:31 AM
>> > > > > > > > > >  > Subject: [amibroker] Re: RT chart not 
>> updating !!!
>> > > > > > > > > >  > 
>> > > > > > > > > >  > 
>> > > > > > > > > >  > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:amibroker%
>> > > > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com> ps.com, "Tomasz Janeczko" 
>> <groups@> 
>> > > > > > > > > >  > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >>
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> Hello,
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> 
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> Check the timing of your code
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> (Tools->Misc->Display chart timing)
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> 
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> Chances are that your formulas are written 
>> > > > > > > inefficiently. 
>> > > > > > > > > >  Execution 
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> time per formula in RT should be 0.1 sec or 
>> > > below.
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> 
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> Best regards,
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> Tomasz Janeczko
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> amibroker.com
>> > > > > > > > > >  
>> > > > > > > > > >  ok I managed to find it. I have an afl in 10 
>> minutes 
>> > > > > showing 
>> > > > > > > > > 0.9 . 
>> > > > > > > > > >  well this formula seems to ask for a lot of 
>> computer 
>> > > > > power, 
>> > > > > > > or 
>> > > > > > > > > better 
>> > > > > > > > > >  codin, or both.
>> > > > > > > > > >  
>> > > > > > > > > >  I wrote previously about that, and you suggested 
>> a 
>> > > > > solution, 
>> > > > > > > the 
>> > > > > > > > > >  trouble is I'm not good at all in afl. just cut 
>> and 
>> > > > > paste..
>> > > > > > > > > >  however, I suspect the lag originating somewhere 
>> > > else. I 
>> > > > > > > cannot 
>> > > > > > > > > >  remember having such discrepancies between my 
>> > trading 
>> > > > > > > aplication, 
>> > > > > > > > > and 
>> > > > > > > > > >  amibroker/iqfeed
>> > > > > > > > > >  
>> > > > > > > > > >  something else maybe?
>> > > > > > > > > >  shall I post you the code and a screen snapshot?
>> > > > > > > > > >  
>> > > > > > > > > >  regards
>> > > > > > > > > >  
>> > > > > > > > > >  > > 
>> > > > > > > > > >  > > sorry, I cannot find such an menu item on 
>> > > amibroker 
>> > > > > tools 
>> > > > > > > > > >  pulldown 
>> > > > > > > > > >  > > menu
>> > > > > > > > > >  > > 
>> > > > > > > > > >  > > regards
>> > > > > > > > > >  > > 
>> > > > > > > > > >  > > 
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> From: "lagramada7" <tm7@>
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:amibroker%
>> > > > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com> ps.com>
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 2:59 AM
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> Subject: [amibroker] Re: RT chart not 
>> > > updating !!!
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> 
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> 
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxx 
>> <mailto:amibroker%
>> > > > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com> ps.com, "Tomasz Janeczko" 
>> <groups@> 
>> > > > > > > > > >  > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> >>
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> >> Are you using 5.09 ? If not - upgrade.
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> >> 
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> >> Best regards,
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> >> Tomasz Janeczko
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> >> amibroker.com
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> > 
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> > tomasz, i got 5.09 and the last 
>> iqfeedplugin, 
>> > > and 
>> > > > > the 
>> > > > > > > > > clock in 
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> > amibroker charts lags 10 minutes the 
>> computer 
>> > > > > clock, 
>> > > > > > > and 
>> > > > > > > > > that 
>> > > > > > > > > >  in 
>> > > > > > > > > >  > > the 
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> > middle of the night when the futures are 
>> > quite 
>> > > > > still
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> > 
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> > something must be done with iqfeed
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> > regards
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> > 
>> > > > > > > > > >  > >> > 
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