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[amibroker] Re: Old Backtester featuring "Buy and Hold"



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Hi Brian

Very interesting. Thank you for the insight and further info on your
files called "compare index to portfolio". I found the files and I am
 studying them.

I've owned another back testing and trading platform for a couple of
years but never found the time to learn their "easy language". One
thing I've learned is that if support and/or some type of online
community dries up then that pretty much spells the end for a new user.

I'm finally learning to code using Amibroker and quite frankly enjoy
the fact that the program resides on my computer and not online. No
reason to pay $100./month for an online trading platform if all one
accomplishes is consistent losses in the market.

Thank You 
Walter



--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian_z111" <brian_z111@xxx> wrote:
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Walter Lepore" 
> <electricwally77@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Brian
> > 
> > Thank you. I'm studying your response as it may be a little over my
> > head at this point. 
> 
> Don't worry - I use a lot of pictures in my 'help' files to help 
> facilitate learning (images are the language of the subconscious 
> mind). I also start at the beginning and walk through the process 
> step by step (the path you take after the beginning steps and how 
> fast you travel is up to you).
> 
> The reason we are interested in buy&hold (b&h) is because we want to 
> know if our trading skills are producing better results than dumbluck 
> (anybody, without any specialist trading knowledge can b&h) i.e. we 
> want to benchmark our trading 'system' against a b&h strategy (in 
> real life, when you b&h you receive dividends so you need to account 
> for the dividends as well - some 'professional' indexes account for 
> dividends some don't - if you use dividend adjusted data then a 
> straight b&h calculation is an approximate surrogate for dividend 
> inclusion).
> 
> So, if I remember correctly, the files at this board are intended to 
> expose the reader to the concepts of b&h and show one easy way that 
> it can be done and plotted in AB.
> 
> Once you understand the concept (and agree with it or conversely 
> disagree and want to do it another way) then you can move on to more 
> advanced methods to construct b&h plots, or values, etc and also 
> consider other ways to benchmark.
> 
> I have pointed to some more advanced ideas because:
> 
> 1) the mind is more powerful than you think and works in amazing ways.
> 
> 2) when you are exposed to new ideas they seep into your subconscious 
> mind, become fertile and later on come back out as productive insight 
> (that's when you say - that's what he was talking about).
> 
> 3) the mind is like a jumps horse - it baulks at new and/or 'big' 
> hurdles - but if you walk it up to them a few times and let it see 
> what is coming up then it will settle down and be prepared to accept 
> the 'big' jump later.
> 
> brian_z
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I'm new to Amibroker and finally starting to find
> > my way around the interface. 
> > 
> > I'll check out your files in the file section and see if I can
> > experiment with them.
> > 
> > Thank again
> > Walter
> > 
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "brian_z111" <brian_z111@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Walter Lepore" 
> <electricwally77@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Members
> > > > 
> > > > Can anyone please tell me if the "Buy and Hold" results in the 
> Old
> > > > Backtester (v4.4)will be made available in the "Individual 
> Backtest
> > > > and Portfolio Backtest. It's nice If I can see all results in 
> one 
> > > report. 
> > > > 
> > > > Perhaps there is already a way I can view this but I'm still 
> llearning
> > > > the interface.
> > > > 
> > > > Thank you for your patience
> > > > 
> > > > Walter
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Hello Walter,
> > > 
> > > Perhaps not the definitive answer but to start some thinking 
> around the 
> > > subject - I did an example of how to simulate a buy and hold 
> using a 
> > > GUI method (via AA) - it is still in the file section, of this 
> > > messageboard, as COMPARE INDEX TO PORTFOLI0 by brian.z123 - sorry 
> it is 
> > > in parts due to the upoad limits of the file section (I should 
> edit it 
> > > and move it to the UKB one day) - the limit on the number of 
> stocks you 
> > > can hold in the simulation is the decimal places that 'Pozition 
> Size' 
> > > accepts - I haven't tried to push it to the limit as on my part 
> it was 
> > > only an exercise to demonstrate the principles of the 'buy & 
> hold' 
> > > equity curve as the freelance traders 'true benchmark' cf to 
> popular 
> > > indexes (like the Dow etc) - the answer is relative and doesn't 
> depend 
> > > on the capacity to actually 'buy' many stocks in real life.
> > > 
> > > I didn't explore the other (less GUI) ways to go about 'buy and 
> hold' 
> > > in AB but the ATC function can easily calculate (and allow you to 
> plot) 
> > > customize buy and hold equivalents for large numbers of stocks in 
> a 
> > > watchlist etc.
> > > 
> > > brian_z
> > >
> >
>




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