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>> You should look inside broker.params file.
What program do I use to 'look inside'.
Will Notepad read it?
Just curious (curiosity killed the cat but then again the cat has
nine lives!).
TIA.
brian_z
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@xxx>
wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> It saves parameter values for all charts - it is needed as
> "permanent" storage of parameters, so when you shut down AmiBroker
> and re-run the parameters are restored to values they were set
prior to shut down.
>
> I think that you "re-invented wheel" - parameters are saved by
AmiBroker already
> and I am not quite sure why to re-implement the same from AFL.
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dennis Brown" <see3d@xxx>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 5:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Why does it take so long to apply edits?
>
>
> > Tomasz,
> >
> > The broker.params file is 117KB and you are right it contains
> > thousands of parameters from past versions of the chart.
> > Since I keep all my parameters in separate files I deleted this
file
> > and it is now only 5KB and my program runs the same (I made a
copy
> > first).
> > How interesting. Could this have slowed down applying my edits
as it
> > grew?
> > I could just delete this file from time to time. Does it serve
any
> > other purpose?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Dennis
> >
> > On Nov 19, 2007, at 9:29 PM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> You should look inside broker.params file.
> >> I guess that thousands of different (now unused)
> >> parameter names were created by the formula.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Tomasz Janeczko
> >> amibroker.com
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Dennis Brown" <see3d@xxx>
> >> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 2:45 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Why does it take so long to apply edits?
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> I just wanted to let everyone know that I found how to fix this
> >>> problem. Somehow my chart had become corrupted in such a way
that
> >>> every edit I made would progressively add a little bit more to
the
> >>> time it took to "Apply Indicator". I was up to 15 minutes today
> >>> before I found it was not my AFL that was doing it. AB Support
tried
> >>> my AFL and let me know that it was not the problem which got me
> >>> looking in the right direction. Copying my AFL to another sheet
> >>> fixed the problem. It actually takes less than a second to do
this
> >>> operation now.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Dennis
> >>>
> >>> On Nov 8, 2007, at 9:09 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Tomasz,
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you for your response on the forum. Since this problem
seems
> >>>> to have gone way beyond the purpose of the forum at this
point, I am
> >>>> switching to AB Support to debug this issue. I have included
this
> >>>> whole thread as background with that email.
> >>>>
> >>>> But to answer your questions here for the completeness of
this
> >>>> thread:
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, I am talking about "Apply Indicator" taking so long and
it did
> >>>> not make sense to me either that it should take so long.
> >>>>
> >>>> If I do a "Verify syntax" it takes less than a second.
> >>>>
> >>>> Normal operation mode is .25 seconds and resulted in the
following:
> >>>>
> >>>> Using constant volume bar mode resulted in an "Apply" time of
8.5
> >>>> minutes.
> >>>> Switching to daily mode resulted in an "Apply" time of 9.5
> >>>> minutes --
> >>>> so not an improvement.
> >>>> Commenting out ALL 2700 lines of my AFL code resulted in an
apply
> >>>> time of 3 minutes.
> >>>>
> >>>> The Profiler runs instantly and shows .01 seconds execution
time,
> >>>> but
> >>>> consists of only 6 functions that are checked because most of
the
> >>>> AFL
> >>>> is conditionally executed in indicator mode only.
> >>>>
> >>>> I edited out my indicator mode wrapper and used the Profiler
again.
> >>>> This time it showed the results on the screen for about 2
seconds,
> >>>> then the window disappeared and none of the AB windows could be
> >>>> selected, as if the profiler model dialog box was still open
but now
> >>>> invisible. I was able to catch the AFL run time from the
window
> >>>> before it disappeared. One time it said .45 seconds, another
> >>>> time it
> >>>> was 1.1 seconds.
> >>>>
> >>>> I took screen shots of the Task Manager while it is doing
an "Apply
> >>>> indicator" and sent them along with my AFL code to the AB
support
> >>>> email.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you for all you do for us.
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Dennis
> >>>>
> >>>> On Nov 7, 2007, at 4:26 PM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Dennis,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you speak about "Apply indicator" - it should be sub-
second
> >>>>> time.
> >>>>> Minutes mean that something is wrong.
> >>>>> "Applying indicator" executes the code for ALL bars with
selected
> >>>>> symbol and selected interval.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Your formula needs to be doing some weird things if that
takes that
> >>>>> much time.
> >>>>> Use built in Profiler (in 5.0.1) to find out which functions
that
> >>>>> you are using cause such long times.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Other than looking at your formula I can only suggest to
switch to
> >>>>> daily interval when applying the code during editing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>> Tomasz Janeczko
> >>>>> amibroker.com
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Dennis Brown" <see3d@xxx>
> >>>>> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 6:24 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Why does it take so long to apply
edits?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Ok,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This has totally frustrated me. I am ready to abandon the
> >>>>>> built-in
> >>>>>> AFL editor. It is taking forever to debug code when I have
to
> >>>>>> wait
> >>>>>> 4-8 minutes for every typo.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> However, I need to keep my AB chart running while editing
the AFL
> >>>>>> (because my AB startup setup is complicated).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Can I use an external editor as a *direct* replacement for
the
> >>>>>> built-
> >>>>>> in editor?
> >>>>>> Alternatively, is there a way to disable the checking done
by the
> >>>>>> AFL
> >>>>>> formula editor when applying?
> >>>>>> Actually the syntax checking is fast, it is what it does
after
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>> that takes so long.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Am I the only one who sees this problem?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>> Dennis
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Oct 30, 2007, at 10:21 AM, Dennis Brown wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Tomasz,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> As time has gone on, I have increased the complexity of my
AFL to
> >>>>>>> 2500 lines and my database to 200K. The time to apply
edits has
> >>>>>>> also
> >>>>>>> gone up to 8 minutes even though I have wrapped the code so
that
> >>>>>>> most
> >>>>>>> only executes in indicator mode. Finally today I became
> >>>>>>> frustrated
> >>>>>>> enough to track down the offending AFL. I started by
commenting
> >>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>> my entire AFL. Time to apply --4 minutes for 2500 lines of
> >>>>>>> comments! I am at a loss for how to track down what is
> >>>>>>> causing the
> >>>>>>> long apply edits now. Do you know how I might approach
this?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>>> Dennis
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sep 4, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Tomasz,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thank you for your insights.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I wrapped my code today as you suggested below and in an
earlier
> >>>>>>>> post
> >>>>>>>> today, so unwrapped are only the uncalled functions and a
few
> >>>>>>>> variables initialized to keep out syntax errors. I am
using a
> >>>>>>>> 90,000
> >>>>>>>> bar 5 second database, but the chart timeframe is run at
about
> >>>>>>>> 7,000
> >>>>>>>> bars, and my complex loop processing is limited by
parameter to
> >>>>>>>> less
> >>>>>>>> than 2,000 bars. Changing that parameter to 200 bars
reduces
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> execution time from 1 second to .2 seconds, but as you
> >>>>>>>> suggested,
> >>>>>>>> does not seem to have much affect on the apply time --
which now
> >>>>>>>> varies from 35 to 65 seconds. I also tried different
tickers
> >>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>> fewer bars (30,000) and it did made the apply time
longer. So I
> >>>>>>>> would say my edit apply time is no longer dependent on my
> >>>>>>>> database
> >>>>>>>> size or AFL complexity.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Even though I am glad to have under a minute apply time
now, it
> >>>>>>>> seems
> >>>>>>>> as though there is still something else that is slowing it
> >>>>>>>> down. Do
> >>>>>>>> any other possibilities come to mind?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> One thing that I noticed, is that it is a consistent 35
> >>>>>>>> seconds to
> >>>>>>>> apply when I start up AB and just do a lot of applies.
> >>>>>>>> Switching
> >>>>>>>> symbols, more edits, enabling complex AFL sections, etc.
> >>>>>>>> cause the
> >>>>>>>> time to lengthen up to the 55 second area and it does not
go
> >>>>>>>> back
> >>>>>>>> down until I quit AB. I am guessing that these things
take
> >>>>>>>> memory
> >>>>>>>> that does not get released and it reduces the RAM
available for
> >>>>>>>> processing the apply.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> PS. When I turn on ALL of my formula (enabled in sections
with
> >>>>>>>> multiple timeframes and indicators) it takes about 5
seconds to
> >>>>>>>> execute with all the speed-up tricks so far --which is why
I am
> >>>>>>>> obsessed with getting the most speed I can out of AFL by
clever
> >>>>>>>> programming tricks.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>>>> Dennis
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Sep 4, 2007, at 6:00 PM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Dennis,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If you are "applying" the code - it is for the first time
> >>>>>>>>> executed
> >>>>>>>>> with ALL bars, regardless of QuickAFL and SetBarsRequired
> >>>>>>>>> settings.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Now *if* your formula is complex and uses looping and you
are
> >>>>>>>>> using
> >>>>>>>>> for example tick database with hundreds of thousands of
bars
> >>>>>>>>> it may take a while. Usually it is non-issue as people
are not
> >>>>>>>>> using such complex formulas.
> >>>>>>>>> (1 second is *very* long for execution under normal
> >>>>>>>>> circumstances.
> >>>>>>>>> My formulas usually execute well below 0.1 sec).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> You may wrap your code into
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> if( Status("action")==actionIndicator)
> >>>>>>>>> {
> >>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>> }
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> and this will prevent this effect.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>>>>> Tomasz Janeczko
> >>>>>>>>> amibroker.com
> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>>> From: "Dennis Brown" <see3d@xxx>
> >>>>>>>>> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:25 PM
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: [amibroker] Why does it take so long to apply
edits?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I have noticed that the time it takes to apply an edit
to my
> >>>>>>>>>> large
> >>>>>>>>>> indicator AFL takes a long but variable amount of time.
It
> >>>>>>>>>> might
> >>>>>>>>>> take 15 seconds one time and 3 minutes another time.
It
> >>>>>>>>>> usually
> >>>>>>>>>> takes about 2.5 minutes to apply an edit, though if
there is a
> >>>>>>>>>> syntax
> >>>>>>>>>> error, it comes back right away. The AFL itself has an
> >>>>>>>>>> execution of
> >>>>>>>>>> about 1 second per pass and starts up right away from
scratch.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I was wondering if there were any general rules that I
> >>>>>>>>>> should be
> >>>>>>>>>> aware of that would make applying edits faster and more
> >>>>>>>>>> consistent?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Another thing that is interesting is that if I click
> >>>>>>>>>> anywhere on
> >>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> chart or UI while the edit is being applied, it runs even
> >>>>>>>>>> slower,
> >>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> always resets all the params.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Insights anyone?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>>>> Dennis
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Please note that this group is for discussion between
users
> >>>>>>>>>> only.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail
> >>>>>>>>>> directly to
> >>>>>>>>>> SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check
> >>>>>>>>>> DEVLOG:
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> For other support material please check also:
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.amibroker.com/support.html
> >>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>
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directly to
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> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>
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> >>>> SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
> >>>>
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> >>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>
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