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[amibroker] Re: Layouts



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Hi there,

being a newbie to AB, so bear with me, though what you are describing
sounds familiar (if I have misunderstood your problem, forgive me,
though I did read all the mails) :)

(I take it that you have turned out the auto-save on exit in Preferences.)

I found that opening a new Window actually does not open a 'new'
window, strictly speaking, though rather the same window twice (or
rather, the one based on your saved template).
Whatever you change 'inside' one window, you change in all windows
(although the changes to the second window might not update its
display until you have shifted focus to it, even if you have them
side-by-side). This goes for everything you drag-n-drop into the
window (though not interval and symbol and other 'externals).
Or put another way, everything that is in the chart underlying code
(seen through Edit).

AB remembers what you have dragged into a chart by that chart's chart
ID (check parameters for the chart, it will be there towards the bottom).
So when you save the layout and make changes to the chart, this are
still bound to the chart ID, which will be the same as before (even
without saving the changes).

There is a real simple solution to this: When you have saved your
first layout/window/chart, insert ex. price as a new chart (doubble
clicking as opposed to dragging it into an existing pane), i.e. as a
new and independent pane, then close all the previous panes/charts in
your window.
Your new chart/pane will have new and freshly created Chart ID and
what you do here will not affect your previous layout/window.
Obviously, you can keep opening more charts/panes with new Chart IDs.

As I said, Newbie Alert, so apologies if this is not all technically
correct, though the solution does work (and I already bow my head,
fearing the lash of the vhip of the more clever people around here).

Hope I understood your question correctly at least.
All the best...


--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Herman van den Bergen"
<psytek@xxxx> wrote:
>
> Sorry, too many emails... :-(  I often join a disussion after i see the
> topic stays alive.
> 
> I suggest you email support and share the response you get on the list.
> 
> seasons greetings,
> herman
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Mike Ringgold
>   Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 7:55 AM
>   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Subject: RE: [amibroker] Layouts
> 
> 
>   Herman,
> 
>   Thank you, for this response!
> 
>   However, I do not have any problem w/drag and drop, I
>   do not have any problem with indicators, I do not need
>   any unique indicators, that is, other than what I
>   currently am using, and as a matter of fact I have
>   read the instructions from the help menu on how to
>   create "Chart Layouts." I believe that unfortunatley,
>   none of which you have laid out here seems to apply to
>   my particular case. perhaps if you had read my message
>   posted earlier, (it would be the first msg. titled
>   "Layouts")  you would understand a bit more precisely
>   what I am talking about.
> 
>   thanks again,
> 
>   MJ
> 
>   --- Herman van den Bergen <psytek@xxxx> wrote:
> 
>   > Drag-Drop is for dropping identical indicators on
>   > your charts, you appear
>   > more ambitious and will have to look into the more
>   > advanced features of
>   > AmiBroker, like using the Formula Editor. To have
>   > unique indicators/layouts
>   > you have to save them under unique Indicator or
>   > Layout names - there is no
>   > other way.
>   >
>   > In the case of Composite indicator panes, you open a
>   > window and create the
>   > base/composite indicator you want to work from; just
>   > drop whatever you like
>   > in this window. Then open the indicator by
>   > right-clicking on it and
>   > selecting edit, next save the this composite
>   > base-formula under a unique
>   > name. Just type the name in the file-window and
>   > click Apply. You now see two
>   > panes in your window and you close the upper one by
>   > clicking on the X in the
>   > pop toolbar at the top-right of your chart. Next you
>   > open as many windows as
>   > you like and repeat this procedure for each window.
>   > This may sound
>   > complicated but is really a simple procedure when
>   > you are used to it.
>   >
>   > There are other features, like using Include files
>   > as a base or
>   > creating/saving unique Layout files. Time to stop
>   > dragging and dropping and
>   > watch some videos and/or read the help.
>   >
>   > best regards,
>   > herman.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >   -----Original Message-----
>   >   From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   > [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
>   > Behalf Of Mike Ringgold
>   >   Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 6:41 PM
>   >   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   >   Subject: Re: [amibroker] Layouts
>   >
>   >
>   >   cstrader,
>   >
>   >   Thanks for your response!  The short answer to
>   > your
>   >   question is no, because no matter how many charts
>   > that
>   >   I open it is always that what ever I place(drag
>   > and
>   >   drop) onto the chart goes automatically onto all
>   > of
>   >   the other charts, as well if I delete what I have
>   > done
>   >   it deletes from all.  If I close all these chart
>   >   open any number of others I find it has
>   > automatically
>   >   saved what the work into the new chart, and again
>   > if I
>   >   delete it deletes all charts.  This is
>   > exasperating, I
>   >   have tried this too many times to believe that I
>   > would
>   >   be doing anything out of the norm for charting
>   >   programs, but then that is never out of the
>   > question
>   >   either, fore each has their own idiosyncrysies.
>   > Beyond
>   >   these it still at least seems to me that there
>   > ought
>   >   to be an easy solution .  For now I have to say
>   > that
>   >   this little investment has been a bust, if I
>   > cannot
>   >   correct or solve this, this is what should be a
>   > very
>   >   simple thing.
>   >
>   >   --- cstrader <cstrader232@xxxx> wrote:
>   >
>   >   > Maybe I'm missing something, but can't you just
>   > open
>   >   > 4 windows, each with
>   >   > the same symbol, and then put whatever you want
>   > in
>   >   > each of the 4 windows?
>   >   >
>   >   > ----- Original Message -----
>   >   > From: "Mike Ringgold"
>   > <mikelmotorcycle@xxxx>
>   >   > To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>   >   > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 1:11 PM
>   >   > Subject: [amibroker] Layouts
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   > > Earlier today I posted the following, over on
>   > the
>   >   > "Problems and
>   >   > > Troubleshooting," board at AB., and thought it
>   >   > would be a good idea to
>   >   > > post it on this board as well.  I hope to find
>   > the
>   >   > solution here.
>   >   > >
>   >   > > I have for some time been trying to figure out
>   > how
>   >   > to use multiple
>   >   > > chart layouts. I am attempting to have as a
>   > single
>   >   > layout, 4 different
>   >   > > price charts linked, so that I may view a
>   > single
>   >   > security from 4
>   >   > > different views, with indicators directly on
>   > the
>   >   > price chart itself.
>   >   > > It appears that AB will not allow this, and
>   > please
>   >   > help me w/this if
>   >   > > that statement is not so.
>   >   > >
>   >   > > An example of what I am trying to do is, to
>   > have
>   >   > one chart of multiple
>   >   > > BollingerBands, another of multiple Moving
>   >   > averages, another of
>   >   > > multiple Pivot Points and a 4th w/multiple
>   >   > regression lines.
>   >   > >
>   >   > > I have no problem in dragging and dropping the
>   >   > indicators onto the
>   >   > > chart and saving each individually, either as
>   > a
>   >   > Local or Global Layout
>   >   > > nor do I have a problem in Saving As, or in
>   > any
>   >   > other format as
>   >   > > suggested by the help menu.
>   >   > > My problem is that this system seems not to be
>   >   > able to save more than
>   >   > > one chart. For example, I build a chart of
>   >   > multiple BollingerBands,
>   >   > > and save it, then to build another I must
>   > after
>   >   > bringing up another
>   >   > > chart I find that I must delete my previous
>   > work,
>   >   > in other words it AB
>   >   > > does not default to a new clean price chart,
>   >   > rather it brings up the
>   >   > > very chart that I just built. If I delete all
>   > of
>   >   > my work, in this case
>   >   > > "BollingerBands," then I automatically lose
>   > that
>   >   > chart, and if I move
>   >   > > on and build yet another chart ,say of Moving
>   >   > Averages then the very
>   >   > > same thing happens.
>   >   > >
>   >   > > How do I get past this and save all 4 of my
>   > charts
>   >   > as a single layout,
>   >   > > Your help will be very much appreciated,
>   >   > >
>   >   > > MJsocal aka. mikelmotorcycle
>   >   > >
>   >   > >
>   >   > >
>   >   > >
>   >   > >
>   >   > >
>   >   > >
>   >   > >
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>   >   > >
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