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Joe,

 

I’ve programmer by profession.   As part of that, I’ve done a pretty fair amount of technical writing. 

 

Writing clearly, especially technical writing is difficult.  Two of the biggest challenges are 1) clearly stating the goal(s) and scope of your document and 2) categorizing the information so that it is clear and easy to read. 

 

The categorizations listed below are a pretty good start, but we don’t have a Goal(s) and Scope statement.  Here is a proposed Goals and Scope statement:

 

Goal and Scope - The Goal for the AmiBroker WikiWiki site is to provide “How To” information for AmiBroker users.   The Scope is limited to “How To” – processes, techniques, and tips and tricks.   It is not meant to replace the AFL Library or AFL Language Reference.   Systems should NOT be included in the WikiWiki. 

 

The statement above is a straw-man.   I’m placing it here for discussion.   If useful, let’s retain and enhance it.   If not, let’s replace it with something that is useful.

 

Regards,

 

Dan.

 


From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Landry
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 8:01 PM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea

 

Dan - That was my label in my organization and I'm thinking these would be clean compile, AFL scan or indicator examples of pattern recognition. Hopefully if they can be improved someone would lay a pen to and fix it up.  I've got one AFL from one

of the forum authors labelled pattern recognition, and it detects say 4-5 key ones.

 

I know we already have an outlet for AFLs but these seems to be a little more informal, and could serve the new user..how do you plot arrows, or plot a ribbon, write out a timing signal that is persistence other than using AddToComposite.

 

Thanks for the interest.  Will be off line for about 12 hrs, and will catch you and Dingo later.

 

JOE  

 

---- Original Message -----

From: Dan Clark

Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 3:17 PM

Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea

 

Dingo,

 

Point taken.   I agree with your position. 

 

I just want a definition of the “Chart Pattern Recognition” category.  Is it to record information about the patterns themselves or to record AFL to scan for the patterns? 

 

Both are valid, IMO.  It’s just that we need to have clear definitions of what should and should not be in each category.

 

Regards,

 

Dan.

 


From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of dingo
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 12:19 PM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea

 

the basic goal (imho)  is to have a "place" where anyone can post a "relevant" entry that can be used to seek knowledge on a subject.  

 

As far as a pure discussion - I don't think that it would be the correct place for that.   This forum would be more appropriate. If we allow discussions on the wiki then its usefulness as a FAQ / Snippets respository will be compromised.

 

d

 


From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan Clark
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 2:41 PM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea

Comments below + one question…

 

Does the “Chart Pattern Recognition” section refer to a discussion of the strategy or of how to create an AFL script to recognize the pattern?

 

Regards,

 

Dan.

 

 

 


From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Landry
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 11:25 AM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: dingo

Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 12:12 PM

Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea

 

just post them here - its too early imho to post on wiki till we get organizediki.

 

I had been thinking along the lines of:

 

Databases

     |------------------ Creating

     |------------------ Copying

     |------------------ Vendor-Specific Issues & Processes

     |                      |---- eSignal

     |                      |---- TeleChart

     |                      …

     .

     .

 Backtesting

     |------------------ Afl

     |                    |----- Buy/Sell/Short/Cover

     |                    .

     |                    .

     |------------------ Stops

    

  Composites(add to)

     |-----------------|

     .

   Averages

     |----------------- Family (watchlists)

 

  MPT & Metrics (alpha, beta, sharpe, UI, UPI, RelStdev)

 

  Charting

      |----------------- blah

      |----------------- blah

 

 Scoring

   |------------------- RSQP

   |--------------------Beaten down stocks

   |--------------------

 

Chart Pattern Recognition

   |--------------------Break Outs - Resistance

   |--------------------------------------Turtle Break outs

   |-------------------------------------- Kamish Bullish Bearish

   |-------------------------------------- Channels and Wedges

   |---------------------------------------RSI Trendlines and Wedges

   |---------------------------------------Channel Breakouts

   |---------------------------------------CCI

   |---------------------Pivot Point

   |---------------------Cup and Handle

   |---------------------

 

 

d

 


From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Close
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 11:56 AM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea

Thanks, Joe/Dale...

 

I just spent 15 minutes looking at some of the main and preliminary editing/organizing tools and syntax for wike.  I had never before attempted an entry although I have used wikipedia numerous times.  As someone said, it is not so simple.  I will attempt a start, not on the outline I have but on some simple headlines as a beginning of an organization.  I also was thinking that a thorough FAQ might be a good way to start and more simple from a beginning standpoint.  It does not look as easy as I thought it would be.

 

Hmmmm......

 


From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Landry
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 10:13 AM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea

Hi Ken - I agree with you and  I'd like to see your outline. I'd contribute topics where I can and 

would start organizing the material on my part. 

 

Best regards

JOE  

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Ken Close

Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 8:12 AM

Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea

 

A key thing is that no ONE person makes contributions.  Lots of folks write or edit material or both.  The more people who contribute even a small amount of learning or teaching about something they have done, the more the reference work will grow.  Further, people will only write about the things that interest them, so the content grows accordingly...initially with big gaps and perhaps not a lot of organization, but eventually growing into a valuable work.

 

A couple of us had compiled some outlines of things needed to learn about AB. This was done over a year ago and is thus somewhat out of date.  Nonetheless, this could be an organizational starting point and I could dust off these old outlines and see what it would take to turn some of them into Wiki pages---but it would be nice to see some positive suction, hopeful comments, and an indication that some folks would contribute some original content.  Think about Herman's tutorial from way back, on AddtoComposites.  Effort like that is the kind of contribution that would make a wonderful, information-rich AB Wiki. 

 

Ken

 


From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 5:15 AM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea

I guess the big question, Who is going to volunteer to do all this
work on the wiki site???
There is already facility to add comments to the online AFL functions
that is clearly not fully utilised as it takes someone actually
writing something to add. We cannot expect TJ to do all this work and
keep AB moving forward.
No point running around getting things planned if nobody plans to do
the effort of entering to the site.
If you plan to have everyone write and add their own thing, then
forget organising unless someone is prepared to do the organising.

It all sounds good, but so far very few people have ever come forward
to do the work, and then continue to do so for long time to come.

Yes I am negative about it, It is good idea............. but.

On 7/2/05, Tomasz Janeczko <amibroker@xxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello,

> There are lots of well-organized and well-written wikis out there. The
> largest is probably Wikipedia:  http://en.wikipedia.org
> It uses exactly the same engine as the one I have set up on amibroker.org
> server

> And yes - you have to 'register' in order to edit, but registration involves
> just creating a name and password (2 second work :-))
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: dingo
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 2:01 AM
> Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea
>
> Before any of us give up and slink back into our holes - we need to think
> about organization.  If anyone has a link to a well organized wiki thingi
> then it would be great to see how its done.  Then we need to discuss how to
> organize it.   Once that's done then we can set up a "structure" and start
> filling it in.

> TJ - if you're reading this - is it "public" or do you have to register to
> post?  I already registered but don't know if that was necessary.  Do you
> have any wiki sities  that you can point us to?

> d
>
> ________________________________
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of original_nightstalker
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 7:07 PM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea
>
>
> OK, OK - it didn't turn out quite the way it looks in my InfoSelect. It's
> much
> easier to follow in IS. So I've deleted it from the Wiki page. But it was
> well-intentioned - it's a thread from this very forum on how to set up
> databases for multiple markets in Ami, which is something that many find
> tricky
> and confusing. Tomasz gave an excellent explanation in the last post of the
> thread. The first couple of posts were for context, as Tomasz's post answers
> points raised in the previous ones.
>
> So if somebody can tell me and everyone else how to use the Wiki thingy so
> that
> it looks like a polished page, and preferably indexed, then perhaps the
> thread
> would be worth re-posting there. I tried to make sense of the Wiki Manual,
> but
> a lot of it was gobbledegook to a non-programmer like me, and it would have
> to
> be one of the most user-UNfriendly 'manuals' I have ever encountered. I
> could
> not make sense out of it at all.
>
> I have no idea about writing web pages or using HTML - I hope that's not
> required to use the Wiki thing - but I get the impression from the manual
> that it may be.  In which case, I suspect many of us in here would be left
> behind...  Ah well, I still have my InfoSelect database :)
>
> Regards,  NightStalker
>
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, dan_public@xxxx wrote:
> > Dingo,
> >
> > I took a look too.   Yes, it may be a mess.  OTOH...
> >
> > If I understand the purpose (and I'm not sure I do), a WikiWiki site can
> be made into what we want it to be.  Let's give it a chance.  Add content
> and see what it turns out to be.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Dan.
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> >
> > Well,
> >
> > after looking this over for a few minutes - I fear that it might be too
> complicated for our user base as a whole.
> >
> > If we have people just paste email threads into the site (this has already
> happened) then it will be worse than purebytes.
> >
> > I fear this is gonna be a mess.
> >
> > d
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Tomasz Janeczko
> > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 2:18 PM
> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have set-up Wiki page at:
> > http://www.amibroker.org/wiki/
> >
> > as a tool for this collaborative documentation project.
> >
> > For those of you who do not know what is Wiki, here is a page from
> Wikipedia (Wiki-based free Encyclopedia):
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Tomasz Janeczko
> > amibroker.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: dingo
> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 5:11 PM
> > Subject: RE: [amibroker] AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea
> >
> >
> > That would be nice if we can get this off the ground.
> >
> > As to publishing others work:  If it was posted on a forum then I think it
> would be ok (if anyone disagrees now's the time to speak up). I DO think we
> should post the date and author just the be courteous.
> >
> > d
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Joe Landry
> > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:45 AM
> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea
> >
> >
> >
> > ALL:
> > I'm interested and while no expert I have a collection of snippets that
> I've filed on my Infoselect database over the past 2 years and would be
> happy to clip and paste those in with some editing/categorizing, for example
> as Graham just wrote "how to plot arrows" or how to draw a signal "ribbon"
> etc. some very simple stuff keeps getting asked.  I forget how to compose
> them and have to clip, paste and modify.
> >
> > FWIW
> > There are others on this board who use Infoselect and other databases to
> do exactly that, to keep a store of AFL snippets that can be searched down
> to the letter.  Most of these snippets are not my original thought and
> borrowed from the board.  Somehow searching Purebytes is not nearly as
> productive as creating your own store. 
> >
> > Then there are others who've moved on but who left quite a legacy of tight
> algorithms and indicators.
> >
> > I can contribute a low level of jScript automation -  the running nightly
> jobs as I call them - to create composties,  I'd be interested in moving to
> the next level in jScripts as well as some realtime
> monitoring/alerts/indicators.
> >
> > Be glad to be a contributor of what I have. I'm sensitive about publishing
> others' work and some of the best would be coming from others.
> >
> > JOE
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: dingo
> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 8:54 AM
> > Subject: RE: [amibroker] AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea
> >
> >
> > No there isn't - except for the stuff I've done for the PBI Collected
> Documentation at
> http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/amibroker-beta/files/
> >
> > There have been several attempts to do such a thing but the interest level
> is 0 to build it - but very high to have access to one. But then there are
> those that are too lazy to read anything and therefore will just post a
> question anyway and someone far more patient than most of us (good old
> Graham for instance) will answer that question that's been asked and
> answered 100's of times.
> >
> > TJ offered to set up a WikiWiki for the OLE group several months ago (no
> other folks were interested so it died). Maybe he or you could set one up.
> If so that would allow a "community" effort (Looks like maybe you and me at
> this point).
> >
> > I'll help but due to the lack of response of a couple of other attempts I
> won't lead it.
> >
> > d
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Prosser, Daniel
> > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:59 PM
> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [amibroker] AmiBroker FAQ / SNIPPETS idea
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > > From: Graham <kavemanperth@xxxx>
> > > Subject: Re: Daytrade System - Close open Positions at Close
> > >
> > > actually this question has been answered before a few times in this
> > group
> > >
> > > sell = cross( timenum(), 155959 ); //assuming 4pm is close time
> >
> > Is there an FAQ document maintained for this group?  It seems to me it
> > would be *very* useful for this particular group.
> >
> > Perhaps a "SNIPPETS" style FAQ where snippets of code are kept with
> > common "How do I...?" questions in one large (indexed) document.  Such
> > as the question above...
> >
> > I would certainly take a look at this file before asking my stupid
> > questions :-) It may help cut back on some common questions and help
> > educate new users faster.  It could even be put into the help files of
> > AmiBroker for each major release.
> >
> > The online AFL Library and purebytes.com archives don't really suit this
> > purpose I am finding.
> >
> > Any volunteers? ;)
> >
> > Dan.
> >
> > p.s., in case you don't know - SNIPPETS was a project whose goal was to
> > "collect and disseminate the best C/C++ answers to 'How do I...?'
> > programming questions" (started in the old FidoNet BBS days if I
> > remember correctly - gee I must be getting old...)
> >
> > http://snippets.snippets.org/index.php#PREFACE
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