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RE: [amibroker] Dynamic Money Management



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I ("we" if I may be so presumptuous) clearly understand you and the time
pressure you're under. I was just trying to get you to understand what's
going on with your fan club. I say fan club because you surely realize
that you have the unique distinction amongst TA software vendors of
havning a customer base that is more of a fan club and how jealous those
other vendors must be!

Personally, I have the utmost faith in you. You like to rise any
challenge and exceed even the most demanding expectation.

Quivering with anticipation...!!

d

-----Original Message-----
From: Tomasz Janeczko [mailto:amibroker@x...] 
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 9:22 AM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Dynamic Money Management


Hello,

Excuse me but asking over and over the same question does not speed
up the development even a bit. In fact it slows it down. 
I am bringing as many new features as I can.
Some people are exited about DMM some others are exited about
charting some others are exited about new feeds and some others are
exited about SDK. 

Unfortunatelly I have limited resources and I can not 
deliver "instant" satisfaction in all areas people are exited about.

Frankly speaking TR model is not as good as some "TR-evangelist"
preach. Some limitation is mainly caused by the fact that TR model
applies money
management AFTER backtest.

I won't dig into this now because of lack of time.
Anyway new backtesting engine will allow all that TR allows plus more.

BTW: TR sells for $2295 (http://www.tradingrecipes.com/order.html)

Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "dingo" <dingo@xxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 2:26 PM
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Dynamic Money Management


> That's a little harsh, TJ. 
> 
> I think everyone is very excited about the new MM plans and are
waiting
> with nervous anticipation for what we all hope will be the finest MM
> feature in any TA product. Hence all the questions. Sort of like
when
> you were a child and got excited about a new toy that your parents
> hinted at but didn't tell you all of the details.. It made you more
> excited and more curious. 
> 
> It's a very exciting time in AB land!
> 
> dingo
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tomasz Janeczko [mailto:amibroker@x...] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 2:19 AM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Dynamic Money Management
> 
> 
> Al,
> 
> Excuse me but how many times will ask the same question?
> I know how TR program works. And I already wrote that in the future
> AB will support TR-style operation. That's all I have to say.
> 
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Al Venosa" <avcinci@xxxx>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:28 PM
> Subject: [amibroker] Dynamic Money Management
> 
> 
> > Tomasz:
> > 
> > Yesterday, I posted a message on Van Tharp's forum about your plans 
> > to incorporate innovative money management and pyramiding techniques

> > in a future version of AB. Below is a response from a user of
Trading 
> > Recipes, who claims that TR is the only software that handles MM 
> > corrrectly. Here is what he said:
> > 
> > "It DOES position sizing. the RIGHT way. I own the program and it is

> > GREAT. It took me about 5 minutes to get over the fact that it is 
> > still a DOS based app. But it's really the ONLY tool that does it
the 
> > correct way.
> > 
> > I talked to AmiBroker about 6 months ago, and they told me the same 
> > thing. Plus once they do release the program with position sizing,
it 
> > still has to be proven that they have done it right. 
> > 
> > There are three other companies that I know have that have tried to 
> > do position sizing. Two of them got it wrong. www.rinasystems.com
and 
> > www.bhld.com
> > 
> > The third is the athena program that is mentioned in Van's book. I 
> > haven't ever had the privilege of playing with that program, but I 
> > believe I read somewhere that it used output files from trade 
> > station. So, it would also fall into the category of a program that 
> > isn't truely implementing position sizing at the portfolio level
like 
> > Trading Recipes does."
> > 
> > To explain what he meant by doing it 'the right way', here is what
he 
> > said: 
> > 
> > "TRADING RECIPES' approach lets you combine trading signals and
trade 
> > sizing strategies into simulations which exactly mimic the way you 
> > would trade in real time. A core feature, which sets it apart from 
> > all other "money management" (or backtesting) software, is its 
> > ability to perform dynamic money management (DMM) and risk control
at 
> > the portfolio level. With DMM, position sizes are determined with 
> > full knowledge of what's going on at the portfolio level at the 
> > moment the sizing decision is made. Just like you do in reality. 
> > Other software packages simply sum individual pre-calculated equity 
> > curves. This way, position sizes are calculated with no knowledge of

> > what the current portfolio conditions are at the crucial moment when

> > a position sizing decision is to be made. This is not how you would 
> > make decisions in reality and therefore such simulations offer no 
> > useful information to the trader. DMM avoids this pitfall."
> > 
> > TJ, will your approach be able to do DMM as described above? 
> > Personally, I have no desire to use any program based on DOS. I
think 
> > the position sizing algorithm now included in AB does almost what 
> > this guy describes except for scaling in and out of trades and
basing 
> > one's decisions on the value of the entire portfolio of multiple 
> > stocks rather than a portfolio of one stock. 
> > 
> > Al V.
> > 
> > 
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